Grandma Has ADHD

Episode 18 - What's a Squirtle and Other Life Lesson From an ADHD Grandma Who's Come Out of Retirement Three Times

Jami Shapiro Episode 18

In this episode, host Jami welcomes Wilma Fellman, a counselor, author, and expert in career and life transitions, to discuss the often-overlooked topic of retirement for adults with ADHD. Wilma shares her insights into how ADHD individuals can navigate the challenges of retirement, reassess their strengths, and find meaningful ways to spend their time post-career. Drawing from her own experience of retiring three times and her work with clients, Wilma offers practical advice and inspiring stories about the limitless potential of life after retirement.


In this episode we:

  • [00:02:00] Wilma explains her "life chapters" concept, emphasizing planning for the post-retirement chapter to avoid anxiety and find meaningful activities.
  • [00:04:00]  Wilma shares how her son’s ADHD diagnosis led to her own discovery in the 1980s, highlighting the lack of awareness about ADHD in women at the time.
  • [00:10:00] Jami and Wilma discuss how focusing on strengths can help ADHD individuals find fulfilling careers and navigate life challenges.
  • [00:14:00] Wilma shares an emotional poem she wrote for her non-ADHD child, reflecting the challenges and love within a neurodiverse family.
  • [00:16:00] Wilma explains her unique "squirtle" identity—a mix of squirrel and turtle—symbolizing the boundless energy and need for rest that ADHD brings.
  • [00:22:00] Jami and Wilma discuss the intergenerational impact of ADHD, from parents to children, and how recognizing patterns can lead to better understanding and support.
  • [00:23:00] Wilma shares the importance of planning for retirement like any other life stage and how reassessing strengths and interests can lead to meaningful post-retirement activities.
  • [00:26:00] Wilma explains how career coaching can help retirees rediscover their passions and avoid feelings of isolation and aimlessness.
  • [00:32:00] Wilma emphasizes that every stage of life can be vibrant and purposeful, encouraging listeners to assess where they are today and pursue what lights them up.

Resources Mentioned:

  • Link to the Edge Foundation: https://edgefoundation.org/
  • Link to Wilma’s book “Finding A Career That Works For You”: https://bit.ly/4atVNgX


Thank you for joining us for this episode of Grandma Has ADHD! We hope Jami's journey and insights into ADHD shed light on the unique challenges faced by older adults. Stay tuned for more episodes where we’ll explore helpful resources, share personal stories, and provide guidance for those navigating ADHD. Don’t forget to subscribe and share this podcast with friends who might benefit. Remember, Make the rest of your life the best of your life.

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